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05/13/2007 07:00:52
Subject: The Bluepill Chronicles
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It would appear that bluepill awakenings are once again on the rise, and I am pleased to see the vast members of E Pluribus Neo working so tediously to see that each potential is given the choice. These are the Bluepill Chronicles, a citation of ongoing awakenings.
Remember, my friends... while we do not force the awakening on those who are unprepared, it is our duty to see that all potentials are offered the choice.
For Neo,
Zeissman
The Awakening of Sean Evans
(As transcribed by Captain Rike, HvCFT Libertas, Choice Fleet)
+++Initiate Log+++
+++Begin Transmission+++
This is Captain Rike of the EPN Hovercraft Libertas. Another free mind has entered into the real today, his name is Sean Evans. Fate perhaps brought us together at the same moment in time and he recieved the message and was given the Choice. We recovered him moments after he breached his pod in the lower depths of the field 2324c sewage lines. He is currently in good health and being treated for severve atrophy aboard the Libertas awaiting transport onto the nearest EPN Medical Barge.
Initial contact with Sean was made at Camon Central, but due to Cypherite activity in the area and not wishing to stress the situation, teams held themselves off but maintained watch and continued monitoring the subject.
After a brief interlude Sean was again located at Mara South waiting for a bus where Myself and Votum from Satori Unum made contact and explained the situation to him.
As the presence of Cypherite activity in the area as well as being tracked by several gangs in the immediate area we were forced to improvise at a quiet local bookstore. Although not the ideal location for such an extraction it did however prove to be quite adequite for the purpose.
The choice was given, and after a few moments, Sean chose to walk down the right path and take the redpill.
The crew aboard my ship quickly located the trace and Sean was welcomed for the first time as a free man, in the real.
I would like to extend my gratitude and personal praise in this operation to Votum, First mate of the Hovercraft Negotiator 2, his work in the field on this was truly a credit to SU.
Attached below are the chat logs of the second encounter with Sean at Mara S for your perusal and evalutaion.
May Neo watch over you.
Rike...out...
+++Transmission Terminated+++
+++Signal Lost+++
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05/13/2007 07:12:57
Subject: Re:The Bluepill Chronicles
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Karma Chang
KarmaChang has been recognized as a bluepill ready for extraction.
She has been in contact with operatives by the names of Kai Kanuko (identified as Tsurai from Exigence by BODRaz), Pin Zedong, Austin Sheaperd and Jon Johnson. All are believed to be members of Exigence, a Cypherite faction that told KarmaChang they were a Protection Agency and agreed to track down Dan Lee, KarmaChang's boyfriend whom disappeared approximately 6 months ago on his way to the Church of Disciples in Mansen Park. Recently a red orchid flower was found outside her door, a momento given to her by Dan Lee early in their relationship.
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Recently, KarmaChang consulted a man of the church in an attempt to track Dan Lee. Eventually, KarmaChang identified the Priest as a redpill. KarmaChang is aware of the Matrix as a bluepill can be, and can quickly identify redpills. It is reported that she works at Club Polyvynl and lives in Sai Kung.
Yesterday she was approached by BODRaz of Choice and Dezreki of the Holy Warriors E Zion. She explained her situation and became upset due to the apparent EPN/Cypherite conflict revolving around her. She was then approached by Maskharah, a Cypherite courier. She was led to Eshean to be reunited with Dan Lee. On the way she was given a blue pill to help her relax. Upon refusing the 'sedative' she was abandoned by Maskharah. BODRaz consoled her upon her disappointment but was unable to suitably offer her the Choice. Currently, KarmaChang remains in the Matrix.
Dan Lee's status has been discovered and the operatives involved are one step closer to resolving KarmaChang's situation. If you have not yet received a copy of the report, contact me and I will forward a copy of the report pending clearance.
For Neo,
Zeissman
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05/13/2007 08:43:44
Subject: Re:The Bluepill Chronicles
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I remain vigilant as to the status of Karma. I will report back soon.
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05/13/2007 13:30:08
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As always sir.. I offer you any assistance nessecary..
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05/13/2007 14:03:44
Subject: Re:The Bluepill Chronicles
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Monsieur Zeiss, you really ought to invest in a private channel, lest your "enemies" acquire your little "treasures" first.
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05/13/2007 16:03:15
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Chemuel wrote:
Monsieur Zeiss, you really ought to invest in a private channel, lest your "enemies" acquire your little "treasures" first.
We have little need to hide this from the masses. Unlike others before us we wont resort to trickery or subtefuge to get the job done.
Truth is indeed a powerful weapon.
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05/13/2007 16:42:53
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As is deception, ami. As is deception.
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05/13/2007 17:57:43
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Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
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05/13/2007 19:41:40
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Cover my tracks? Please. If one is talented enough, there are no tracks.
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05/13/2007 19:49:09
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Cihesh wrote:
Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
"Every lie contains truth, and every truth contains a lie."
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05/13/2007 19:56:53
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AmatsKaiser wrote:
Cihesh wrote:
Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
"Every lie contains truth, and every truth contains a lie."
That is the thinking of a Machine.
Blur the lines so it is easier to cross them... or to lead others across them.
For Neo,
Zeissman
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05/13/2007 20:02:17
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There is no need for lies if proper stratagy is applied to your operations.
Of course, there is no denying the inherent tactical value of a lie in certain situations.
But now Im getting off topic. The best plan is to allow others to beleive what they want to, and let it be their own undoing...
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05/13/2007 20:03:03
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Zeissman wrote:
AmatsKaiser wrote:
Cihesh wrote:
Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
"Every lie contains truth, and every truth contains a lie."
That is the thinking of a Machine.
Blur the lines so it is easier to cross them... or to lead others across them.
For Neo,
Zeissman
Oh you misunderstand, I'm not much of a Machinist, but obviously you are oblivious to "truth", so I wont attempt to explain.
For Neo!!
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05/13/2007 20:03:30
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NightTrace wrote:
There is no need for lies if proper stratagy is applied to your operations.
Of course, there is no denying the inherent tactical value of a lie in certain situations.
But now Im getting off topic. The best plan is to allow others to beleive what they want to, and let it be their own undoing...
I rest my case.
For Neo,
Zeissman
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05/13/2007 20:10:25
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Theres a difference between thinking like a "Machine" as you put it, and applying valid tactical thinking to a situation.
The first would insinuate a refusal to apply emotion or outside the box thinking to your problems. The second would suggest that anything will at least be planned out to see what will grant the best end result.
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05/13/2007 20:14:18
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NightTrace wrote:
Theres a difference between thinking like a "Machine" as you put it, and applying valid tactical thinking to a situation.
The first would insinuate a refusal to apply emotion or outside the box thinking to your problems. The second would suggest that anything will at least be planned out to see what will grant the best end result.
Don't you mean the most efficient end result, my friend?
For Neo,
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05/13/2007 20:18:45
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Nope.
There is a difference betweeen most efficient and "best".
Sometimes the most efficient way of doing business is frowned upon, though I have suggested more efficient alternatives to some past operations.
IE: Why waste the manpower to raid a known forward operations post full of hostiles, with a six person fireteam, and take the risk of mission failure, when you can just alter the code to the doors sealing them inside, then physically deleting the place from existence. In a simple matter of seconds an entire floor of enemy hostiles could be winked out of existence. Efficient to the core. And it does not risk operatives. That could actually be the "best".
But now to make my point on there sometimes being a diffence
The Machines want to lower overall hostilies within the simulation by elements of Zion and the Frenchmen. How do you do this?
Efficient: Task two UH-60's to run a circular patrol route around the location of Mara Central, and using the door gunners lay waste to any and all hostiles in the area. Fear will curb further outbreaks of hostile behavior.
Why is that not the best?: The chance of a blue pill watching an entire hub of people being blown to kindom come has an overall detrimental effect to what we're trying to accomplish.
Message edited by NightTrace on 05/13/2007 20:22:52.
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05/13/2007 20:21:29
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NightTrace wrote:
Nope.
There is a difference betweeen most efficient and "best".
Sometimes the most efficient way of doing business is frowned upon, though I have suggested more efficient alternatives to some past operations.
IE: Why waste the manpower to raid a known forward operations post full of hostiles, with a six person fireteam, and take the risk of mission failure, when you can just alter the code to the doors sealing them inside, then physically deleting the place from existence. In a simple matter of seconds an entire floor of enemy hostiles could be winked out of existence.
Because it's much more... enlightening for the Machines to watch the reactions of their enemies. Yes, that is me noting how sadistic your leaders are.
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Zeissman
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05/13/2007 20:25:51
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NightTrace wrote:
Nope.
There is a difference betweeen most efficient and "best".
Sometimes the most efficient way of doing business is frowned upon, though I have suggested more efficient alternatives to some past operations.
IE: Why waste the manpower to raid a known forward operations post full of hostiles, with a six person fireteam, and take the risk of mission failure, when you can just alter the code to the doors sealing them inside, then physically deleting the place from existence. In a simple matter of seconds an entire floor of enemy hostiles could be winked out of existence. Efficient to the core. And it does not risk operatives. That could actually be the "best".
But now to make my point on there sometimes being a diffence
The Machines want to lower overall hostilies within the simulation by elements of Zion and the Frenchmen. How do you do this?
Efficient: Task two UH-60's to run a circular patrol route around the location of Mara Central, and using the door gunners lay waste to any and all hostiles in the area. Fear will curb further outbreaks of hostile behavior.
Why is that not the best?: The chance of a blue pill watching an entire hub of people being blown to kindom come has an overall detrimental effect to what we're trying to accomplish.
Oh, but why should that matter to you? After all, couldn't that entire hub simply be regrown? Or do you forget that mankind is merely a cluster of crops and weeds in your masters eyes?
For Neo,
Zeissman
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05/13/2007 20:31:33
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Hey, Im the bastard that suggest the UH-60 method, not the Machines. Almost anything can properly be spun into the proper channels for the blues though if given time. Hell, case in point with the UH-60 example.
Step One: Blue Pill government is given more and more law enforcement leway in combating the issues they have been having with the gangs of "redpills". This can be accomplished by the machines through the guise of Federal Agencys.
Step Two: City officials spend a month rallying the public in these issues.
Step Three: "Federal" [Read: Machine Programs] Agents are assigned from up high to the Mega City. They bring with them equipment etc etc.
Step Four: The next large scale act of hostiliys results in this newly created publicly known task force being used. A quick responce team responds to the area via UH-60, fast ropes in and receives covering fire from the door gunners.
Step Five: Clean up.
Two UH-60's, a squad of Tactical Security in both, and we call it a SWAT raid.
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05/13/2007 20:33:59
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NightTrace wrote:
Hey, Im the bastard that suggest the UH-60 method, not the Machines. Almost anything can properly be spun into the proper channels for the blues though if given time. Hell, case in point with the UH-60 example.
Step One: Blue Pill government is given more and more law enforcement leway in combating the issues they have been having with the gangs of "redpills". This can be accomplished by the machines through the guise of Federal Agencys.
Step Two: City officials spend a month rallying the public in these issues.
Step Three: "Federal" [Read: Machine Programs] Agents are assigned from up high to the Mega City. They bring with them equipment etc etc.
Step Four: The next large scale act of hostiliys results in this newly created publicly known task force being used. A quick responce team responds to the area via UH-60, fast ropes in and receives covering fire from the door gunners.
Step Five: Clean up.
Two UH-60's, a squad of Tactical Security in both, and we call it a SWAT raid.
You seem like a man who can appreciate a more tactical, strategic reponse. You also seem to be one whom isn't interested in "going with the flow." Perhaps it's time we had another conversation about affiliation.
For Neo,
Zeissman
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05/13/2007 20:35:46
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NightTrace wrote:
Theres a difference between thinking like a "Machine" as you put it, and applying valid tactical thinking to a situation.
The first would insinuate a refusal to apply emotion or outside the box thinking to your problems. The second would suggest that anything will at least be planned out to see what will grant the best end result.
Valid tactical thinking has its place of course. However in the circumstances of awakenings i can see no place for it. Tactical thinking implies the idea of winning and overcoming an enemy or situation. Where the main objective of awakenings is to offer the potential a choice, unfortuntely in the past this may have not always been the case, however it is the current reality.
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05/13/2007 20:42:18
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(( how the hell did we get onto laying waste in Helicopters SMILEY ...))
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05/13/2007 20:45:39
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Not the case. If I may, allow me to put my own line of thought onto an awakening?
More often then not, I've witnessed these potential redpills be given the advertised lines. "See the truth" , "theres more to it then you know".
To be perfectly honest, these potentials never seem to quite ever buy into everything. Their told alot, and half the time it works out for you, they take the redpill and its done. However valid tactical thinking can even be applied to the awakening of potentials, if you take the time to do it.
You can even make a standerdized set of guidelines for -every- awakening. Increasing efficiency etc.
A bluepill has picked up on things, and has been determind to be a potential.
Do -not- just run up to them and start acting all Morpheus about *CENSORED*. You look like a clown, and it does not inspire trust.
Instead, spend a good day or so gathering information about this person. Their job, what their home life is like, their child hood etc. Most of this information can be picked up from the proper channels. In EPNs case, between access to the Zion Mainframe through others, and hackers tapping lower security level Machine mainframes.
When you first make contact with the person, do not run up with bandanna on your face, screaming that the machines are evil and you are here to save them.
Set up a standerd dress uniform for these sort of missions. Business suits [any color], simple shirt/slack combos, skirts for women. You want to appear to be as normal a person as you can to the blues.
Slowly build towards the pill question. Talk to them, get to know thier conversational quirks before moving on.
Attempt to build a semi-valid link of trust with the blue. And segue into the entire world that they have been living in without seeing.
From here you can ask the question regarding choice, and move from there.
Tada: Thinking of an awakening as an operation can be efficient, and applies tactical thinking to the situation.
Message edited by NightTrace on 05/13/2007 20:48:14.
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05/13/2007 20:46:36
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Cihesh wrote:
(( how the hell did we get onto laying waste in Helicopters SMILEY ...))
[[Blame me SMILEY]]
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05/13/2007 20:52:07
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NightTrace wrote:
Not the case. If I may, allow me to put my own line of thought onto an awakening?
More often then not, I've witnessed these potential redpills be given the advertised lines. "See the truth" , "theres more to it then you know".
To be perfectl honest, these potentials never seem to quite ever buy into everything. Their told alot, and half the time it works out for you, they take the redpill and its down. However valid tactical thinking can even be applied to the awakening of potentials, if you take the time to do it.
You can even make a standerdized set of guidelines for -every- awakening. Increasing efficiency etc.
A bluepill has picked up on things, and has been determind to be a potential.
Do -not- just run up to them and start acting all Morpheus about *CENSORED*. You look like a clown, and it does not inspire trust.
Instead, spend a good day or so gathering information about this person. Their job, what their home life is like, their child hood etc. Most of this information can be picked up from the proper channels. In EPNs case, between access to the Zion Mainframe through others, and hackers tapping lower security level Machine mainframes.
When you first make contact with the person, do not run up with bandanna on your face, screaming that the machines are evil and you are here to save them.
Set up a standerd dress uniform for these sort of missions. Business suits [any color], simple shirt/slack combos, skirts for women. You want to appear to be as normal a person as you can to the blues.
Slowly build towards the pill question. Talk to them, get to know thier conversational quirks before moving on.
Attempt to build a semi-valid link of trust with the blue. And segue into the entire world that they have been living in without seeing.
From here you can ask the question regarding choice, and move from there.
Tada: Thinking of an awakening as an operation can be efficient, and applies tactical thinking to the situation.
And as you see, EPN Operatives, this is how you obtain a strict standard of tips and guidelines in initiating and executing the delicate procedure of awakening a potential redpill. Please take your time and thank the Mega City Department of Energy operative NightTrace for taking time out of his schedule to offer such words of wisdom.
And to NightTrace, I do thank you. Yet I fear you may have tipped your hand and shown just how delicate you can be when you wish to. I respect you no less, but now I fear I picture you quitting your job with the Energy Department and doing something much more fitting with this newfound personality trait... maybe farming chicklets or becoming an accomplished flourist.
For Neo,
Zeissman
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Hey, I have no issues with someone who is ready to be awakend being given the choice. So long as
A.) They are given -both- options to chose from.
and
B.) They are not lied to.
If A and B are met, I could care less. Its allowed, and perfectly resonable. And if I can cause the 1% to get an overall easier transistion because I had to teach EPN a thing or two, Im ok with that.
However, the second part of what you said is just silly. Just because I just fielded a hypothetical situation that did not involve killing and/or maiming does not mean I've lost my touch.
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05/13/2007 20:57:57
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NightTrace wrote:
Hey, I have no issues with someone who is ready to be awakend being given the choice. So long as
A.) They are given -both- options to chose from.
and
B.) They are not lied to.
If A and B are met, I could care less. Its allowed, and perfectly resonable. And if I can cause the 1% to get an overall easier transistion because I had to teach EPN a thing or two, Im ok with that.
However, the second part of what you said is just silly. Just because I just fielded a hypothetical situation that did not involve killing and/or maiming does not mean I've lost my touch.
I'd never imply that you've "lost your touch." Merely that you may have potential in other fields. Besides, is it a crime to multitask?
For Neo,
Zeissman
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05/13/2007 20:58:00
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NightTrace wrote:
Not the case. If I may, allow me to put my own line of thought onto an awakening?
More often then not, I've witnessed these potential redpills be given the advertised lines. "See the truth" , "theres more to it then you know".
To be perfectly honest, these potentials never seem to quite ever buy into everything. Their told alot, and half the time it works out for you, they take the redpill and its done. However valid tactical thinking can even be applied to the awakening of potentials, if you take the time to do it.
You can even make a standerdized set of guidelines for -every- awakening. Increasing efficiency etc.
A bluepill has picked up on things, and has been determind to be a potential.
Do -not- just run up to them and start acting all Morpheus about *CENSORED*. You look like a clown, and it does not inspire trust.
Instead, spend a good day or so gathering information about this person. Their job, what their home life is like, their child hood etc. Most of this information can be picked up from the proper channels. In EPNs case, between access to the Zion Mainframe through others, and hackers tapping lower security level Machine mainframes.
When you first make contact with the person, do not run up with bandanna on your face, screaming that the machines are evil and you are here to save them.
Set up a standerd dress uniform for these sort of missions. Business suits [any color], simple shirt/slack combos, skirts for women. You want to appear to be as normal a person as you can to the blues.
Slowly build towards the pill question. Talk to them, get to know thier conversational quirks before moving on.
Attempt to build a semi-valid link of trust with the blue. And segue into the entire world that they have been living in without seeing.
From here you can ask the question regarding choice, and move from there.
Tada: Thinking of an awakening as an operation can be efficient, and applies tactical thinking to the situation.
Which my friend is already being done by our operatives, I cannot speak for the rest of EPN but all our operatives fully understand the magnitude of the Choice that is going to be given.
Perhaps you should forward this through your channels to Veil and her lackeys as they are the ones that seem unable to offer a real chance or choice to potentials.
Message edited by Cihesh on 05/13/2007 21:02:08.
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05/13/2007 21:00:03
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Zeissman wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
Hey, I have no issues with someone who is ready to be awakend being given the choice. So long as
A.) They are given -both- options to chose from.
and
B.) They are not lied to.
If A and B are met, I could care less. Its allowed, and perfectly resonable. And if I can cause the 1% to get an overall easier transistion because I had to teach EPN a thing or two, Im ok with that.
However, the second part of what you said is just silly. Just because I just fielded a hypothetical situation that did not involve killing and/or maiming does not mean I've lost my touch.
I'd never imply that you've "lost your touch." Merely that you may have potential in other fields. Besides, is it a crime to multitask?
For Neo,
Zeissman
Maybe I can start making flower arrangments for the funerals I cause...
Cihesh wrote:
Perhaps you should forward this through your channels to Veil and her lackeys as they are the ones that seem unable to offer a real chance or choice to potentials.
I have as little to do with the Cyphs as possible
Message edited by NightTrace on 05/13/2007 21:04:24.
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05/13/2007 21:09:37
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Take note, Monsieur Zeiss. They will all die, and all because of you.
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05/13/2007 21:18:05
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((orignal post a little off topic SMILEY ))
So far were 2-0, just had word that KarmaChang has been awakened by the Daniel Institute.
As for the "Premonition's" Chemeul best keep them to your self lest someone burn you at the stake.
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05/14/2007 04:01:48
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Seems Karma Chang has been freed by Neopill and Meretrix.
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05/14/2007 05:16:36
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*grins*
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05/14/2007 05:34:16
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Cihesh wrote:
((orignal post a little off topic SMILEY ))
So far were 2-0, just had word that KarmaChang has been awakened by the Daniel Institute.
As for the "Premonition's" Chemeul best keep them to your self lest someone burn you at the stake.
Yeah, Meretrix pulled this off with the help of Neopill. From what I read, she'd make NightTrace revise his efficiency log. HERE'S THE CHAT LOG.
EDIT: Chat log included.
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Karma Chang has indeed been freed, thanks in no small part to MeretrixMeretricis and Neopill of the Daniel Institute of Dream Interpretation. Congratulations to said operatives and we welcome Karma to the real world.
Randy Stevens, Stunt Cyclist
Randall Stevens has flagged as a potential, and will be the next in the list of bluepills to be awakened. He is a motorcycle stunt rider, and works on his stunts in the vicinity of Uriah Industrial, among the workers of the shipping yard. He often sleeps on a cot where he works. His residence is currently unknown, but it is believed that he stays nights with friends or "new company" when not on the cot at work.
Primary Objective: Establish contact with RandyStevens and extract him.
Secondary Objective: Determine Randy's residence and establish steady communication with him.
Please, remain vigilant and always remember to excercize caution when approaching a bluepill subject.
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So now the neo wannabes are on an awakening spree...what a waste of red pills.
We have enough fools flying around and believing they are "special", we don't need more redpills "stressing" the system.
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05/14/2007 07:55:03
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
So now the neo wannabes are on an awakening spree...what a waste of red pills.
We have enough fools flying around and believing they are "special", we don't need more redpills "stressing" the system.
You're a great example of you're 'fools' reference, for sure.
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You are correct, I never said I wasn't one of these "fools". But some fools deserve the pill...and others not.
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I'm pretty sure Meretrix has the chat logs, and some more stills. But heres a few from our meeting with KarmaChang at Meretrix's office.
KarmaChang is a very strong person. And very perceptive. It was an honor to see her make the wisest of choices. Meretrix was instrumental in capturing the essence of what it means to free an enslaved mind. My very best wishes to you KarmaChang.
Welcome to the real world.
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05/14/2007 10:53:41
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Yeah thats what we need... MORE awakened people.
Now they can do what the rest of the awakened mass does, run around and try to enforce their views upon the rest of us. Yeah... welcome to the real world.
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
You are correct, I never said I wasn't one of these "fools". But some fools deserve the pill...and others not.
And you believe that you are the one to deny them that choice?
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And you believe that you are the one to deny them that choice?
Of course. If some people believe they are the ones to offer them the choice, I believe I am the one who can deny them that same choice.
I think it's called..."balance".
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05/14/2007 17:24:24
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So you dont believe those that are ready for the Choice should be offered it? These people are people who are rejecting the system, not random bluepills.
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05/14/2007 18:44:38
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Not everybody who "rejects the system" deserves the Red, as you can see by only taking a look at our beloved city.
The point is: what makes Zeissman "the right person" to choose who bluepills deserved to be saved and whose not?
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
Not everybody who "rejects the system" deserves the Red, as you can see by only taking a look at our beloved city.
The point is: what makes Zeissman "the right person" to choose who bluepills deserved to be saved and whose not?
Not everyone who rejects the system ought to be a redpill, but they at least deserve the choice. And the balance is lies within the choice. Blue balances Red. I would say that there are more people who believe a bluepill deserves the choice. Those who don't would be devil's advocates or exceptions, in my opinion anyway.
Also, I am under the impression that Zeissman is relaying this information from a higher source. Perhaps he is getting it from the Zion or Machine mainframe via a CPD. No one is stopping other orgs from offering the choice.
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
Not everybody who "rejects the system" deserves the Red, as you can see by only taking a look at our beloved city.
The point is: what makes Zeissman "the right person" to choose who bluepills deserved to be saved and whose not?
Perhaps you havnt read what has been said, where was the reference in giving only the redpill?. They get a choice, one more time for those hard of hearing...they get a choice. Not all will take the Red, some will take the blue, the goals is not speciifcally to awaken them, but give them a chance to choose.
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Then how come you never see grand posts about a bluepill who choose the blue pill. In fact, you seldom hear about them at all. People get all proud when someone chooses to live in a cave, but people tend to ignore the ones who would rather tell you where to put your red pill.
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MrPuck wrote:
Then how come you never see grand posts about a bluepill who choose the blue pill. In fact, you seldom hear about them at all. People get all proud when someone chooses to live in a cave, but people tend to ignore the ones who would rather tell you where to put your red pill.
I'd be willing to hear such a story, Mr. Puck. Do you have one to tell?
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MrPuck wrote:
Then how come you never see grand posts about a bluepill who choose the blue pill. In fact, you seldom hear about them at all. People get all proud when someone chooses to live in a cave, but people tend to ignore the ones who would rather tell you where to put your red pill.
I have heard a story like this. It describes nothing but regret. You don't hear about these because they are the equivilent to hearing stories about people who sit on the couch and never accomplish anything. No chances taken, no risk, no opportunity for greatness. We may never achieve greatness, but at least we're trying.
hellstomp3r wrote:
I'm pretty sure Meretrix has the chat logs, and some more stills. But heres a few from our meeting with KarmaChang at Meretrix's office.
Yeah, here it is.
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05/13/2007 07:00:52
Subject: The Bluepill Chronicles
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It would appear that bluepill awakenings are once again on the rise, and I am pleased to see the vast members of E Pluribus Neo working so tediously to see that each potential is given the choice. These are the Bluepill Chronicles, a citation of ongoing awakenings.
Remember, my friends... while we do not force the awakening on those who are unprepared, it is our duty to see that all potentials are offered the choice.
For Neo,
Zeissman
The Awakening of Sean Evans
(As transcribed by Captain Rike, HvCFT Libertas, Choice Fleet)
+++Initiate Log+++
+++Begin Transmission+++
This is Captain Rike of the EPN Hovercraft Libertas. Another free mind has entered into the real today, his name is Sean Evans. Fate perhaps brought us together at the same moment in time and he recieved the message and was given the Choice. We recovered him moments after he breached his pod in the lower depths of the field 2324c sewage lines. He is currently in good health and being treated for severve atrophy aboard the Libertas awaiting transport onto the nearest EPN Medical Barge.
Initial contact with Sean was made at Camon Central, but due to Cypherite activity in the area and not wishing to stress the situation, teams held themselves off but maintained watch and continued monitoring the subject.
After a brief interlude Sean was again located at Mara South waiting for a bus where Myself and Votum from Satori Unum made contact and explained the situation to him.
As the presence of Cypherite activity in the area as well as being tracked by several gangs in the immediate area we were forced to improvise at a quiet local bookstore. Although not the ideal location for such an extraction it did however prove to be quite adequite for the purpose.
The choice was given, and after a few moments, Sean chose to walk down the right path and take the redpill.
The crew aboard my ship quickly located the trace and Sean was welcomed for the first time as a free man, in the real.
I would like to extend my gratitude and personal praise in this operation to Votum, First mate of the Hovercraft Negotiator 2, his work in the field on this was truly a credit to SU.
Attached below are the chat logs of the second encounter with Sean at Mara S for your perusal and evalutaion.
May Neo watch over you.
Rike...out...
+++Transmission Terminated+++
+++Signal Lost+++
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05/13/2007 07:12:57
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Karma Chang
KarmaChang has been recognized as a bluepill ready for extraction.
She has been in contact with operatives by the names of Kai Kanuko (identified as Tsurai from Exigence by BODRaz), Pin Zedong, Austin Sheaperd and Jon Johnson. All are believed to be members of Exigence, a Cypherite faction that told KarmaChang they were a Protection Agency and agreed to track down Dan Lee, KarmaChang's boyfriend whom disappeared approximately 6 months ago on his way to the Church of Disciples in Mansen Park. Recently a red orchid flower was found outside her door, a momento given to her by Dan Lee early in their relationship.
Surveillance Image:
Recently, KarmaChang consulted a man of the church in an attempt to track Dan Lee. Eventually, KarmaChang identified the Priest as a redpill. KarmaChang is aware of the Matrix as a bluepill can be, and can quickly identify redpills. It is reported that she works at Club Polyvynl and lives in Sai Kung.
Yesterday she was approached by BODRaz of Choice and Dezreki of the Holy Warriors E Zion. She explained her situation and became upset due to the apparent EPN/Cypherite conflict revolving around her. She was then approached by Maskharah, a Cypherite courier. She was led to Eshean to be reunited with Dan Lee. On the way she was given a blue pill to help her relax. Upon refusing the 'sedative' she was abandoned by Maskharah. BODRaz consoled her upon her disappointment but was unable to suitably offer her the Choice. Currently, KarmaChang remains in the Matrix.
Dan Lee's status has been discovered and the operatives involved are one step closer to resolving KarmaChang's situation. If you have not yet received a copy of the report, contact me and I will forward a copy of the report pending clearance.
For Neo,
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05/13/2007 08:43:44
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I remain vigilant as to the status of Karma. I will report back soon.
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05/13/2007 13:30:08
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As always sir.. I offer you any assistance nessecary..
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05/13/2007 14:03:44
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Monsieur Zeiss, you really ought to invest in a private channel, lest your "enemies" acquire your little "treasures" first.
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05/13/2007 16:03:15
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Chemuel wrote:
Monsieur Zeiss, you really ought to invest in a private channel, lest your "enemies" acquire your little "treasures" first.
We have little need to hide this from the masses. Unlike others before us we wont resort to trickery or subtefuge to get the job done.
Truth is indeed a powerful weapon.
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05/13/2007 16:42:53
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As is deception, ami. As is deception.
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05/13/2007 17:57:43
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Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
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05/13/2007 19:41:40
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Cover my tracks? Please. If one is talented enough, there are no tracks.
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05/13/2007 19:49:09
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Cihesh wrote:
Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
"Every lie contains truth, and every truth contains a lie."
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05/13/2007 19:56:53
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AmatsKaiser wrote:
Cihesh wrote:
Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
"Every lie contains truth, and every truth contains a lie."
That is the thinking of a Machine.
Blur the lines so it is easier to cross them... or to lead others across them.
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05/13/2007 20:02:17
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There is no need for lies if proper stratagy is applied to your operations.
Of course, there is no denying the inherent tactical value of a lie in certain situations.
But now Im getting off topic. The best plan is to allow others to beleive what they want to, and let it be their own undoing...
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Zeissman wrote:
AmatsKaiser wrote:
Cihesh wrote:
Chemuel wrote:
As is deception, ami. As is deception.
But with the truth you never have to cover your tracks my dear.
"Every lie contains truth, and every truth contains a lie."
That is the thinking of a Machine.
Blur the lines so it is easier to cross them... or to lead others across them.
For Neo,
Zeissman
Oh you misunderstand, I'm not much of a Machinist, but obviously you are oblivious to "truth", so I wont attempt to explain.
For Neo!!
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NightTrace wrote:
There is no need for lies if proper stratagy is applied to your operations.
Of course, there is no denying the inherent tactical value of a lie in certain situations.
But now Im getting off topic. The best plan is to allow others to beleive what they want to, and let it be their own undoing...
I rest my case.
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Theres a difference between thinking like a "Machine" as you put it, and applying valid tactical thinking to a situation.
The first would insinuate a refusal to apply emotion or outside the box thinking to your problems. The second would suggest that anything will at least be planned out to see what will grant the best end result.
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NightTrace wrote:
Theres a difference between thinking like a "Machine" as you put it, and applying valid tactical thinking to a situation.
The first would insinuate a refusal to apply emotion or outside the box thinking to your problems. The second would suggest that anything will at least be planned out to see what will grant the best end result.
Don't you mean the most efficient end result, my friend?
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Nope.
There is a difference betweeen most efficient and "best".
Sometimes the most efficient way of doing business is frowned upon, though I have suggested more efficient alternatives to some past operations.
IE: Why waste the manpower to raid a known forward operations post full of hostiles, with a six person fireteam, and take the risk of mission failure, when you can just alter the code to the doors sealing them inside, then physically deleting the place from existence. In a simple matter of seconds an entire floor of enemy hostiles could be winked out of existence. Efficient to the core. And it does not risk operatives. That could actually be the "best".
But now to make my point on there sometimes being a diffence
The Machines want to lower overall hostilies within the simulation by elements of Zion and the Frenchmen. How do you do this?
Efficient: Task two UH-60's to run a circular patrol route around the location of Mara Central, and using the door gunners lay waste to any and all hostiles in the area. Fear will curb further outbreaks of hostile behavior.
Why is that not the best?: The chance of a blue pill watching an entire hub of people being blown to kindom come has an overall detrimental effect to what we're trying to accomplish.
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NightTrace wrote:
Nope.
There is a difference betweeen most efficient and "best".
Sometimes the most efficient way of doing business is frowned upon, though I have suggested more efficient alternatives to some past operations.
IE: Why waste the manpower to raid a known forward operations post full of hostiles, with a six person fireteam, and take the risk of mission failure, when you can just alter the code to the doors sealing them inside, then physically deleting the place from existence. In a simple matter of seconds an entire floor of enemy hostiles could be winked out of existence.
Because it's much more... enlightening for the Machines to watch the reactions of their enemies. Yes, that is me noting how sadistic your leaders are.
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NightTrace wrote:
Nope.
There is a difference betweeen most efficient and "best".
Sometimes the most efficient way of doing business is frowned upon, though I have suggested more efficient alternatives to some past operations.
IE: Why waste the manpower to raid a known forward operations post full of hostiles, with a six person fireteam, and take the risk of mission failure, when you can just alter the code to the doors sealing them inside, then physically deleting the place from existence. In a simple matter of seconds an entire floor of enemy hostiles could be winked out of existence. Efficient to the core. And it does not risk operatives. That could actually be the "best".
But now to make my point on there sometimes being a diffence
The Machines want to lower overall hostilies within the simulation by elements of Zion and the Frenchmen. How do you do this?
Efficient: Task two UH-60's to run a circular patrol route around the location of Mara Central, and using the door gunners lay waste to any and all hostiles in the area. Fear will curb further outbreaks of hostile behavior.
Why is that not the best?: The chance of a blue pill watching an entire hub of people being blown to kindom come has an overall detrimental effect to what we're trying to accomplish.
Oh, but why should that matter to you? After all, couldn't that entire hub simply be regrown? Or do you forget that mankind is merely a cluster of crops and weeds in your masters eyes?
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Zeissman
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Hey, Im the bastard that suggest the UH-60 method, not the Machines. Almost anything can properly be spun into the proper channels for the blues though if given time. Hell, case in point with the UH-60 example.
Step One: Blue Pill government is given more and more law enforcement leway in combating the issues they have been having with the gangs of "redpills". This can be accomplished by the machines through the guise of Federal Agencys.
Step Two: City officials spend a month rallying the public in these issues.
Step Three: "Federal" [Read: Machine Programs] Agents are assigned from up high to the Mega City. They bring with them equipment etc etc.
Step Four: The next large scale act of hostiliys results in this newly created publicly known task force being used. A quick responce team responds to the area via UH-60, fast ropes in and receives covering fire from the door gunners.
Step Five: Clean up.
Two UH-60's, a squad of Tactical Security in both, and we call it a SWAT raid.
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NightTrace wrote:
Hey, Im the bastard that suggest the UH-60 method, not the Machines. Almost anything can properly be spun into the proper channels for the blues though if given time. Hell, case in point with the UH-60 example.
Step One: Blue Pill government is given more and more law enforcement leway in combating the issues they have been having with the gangs of "redpills". This can be accomplished by the machines through the guise of Federal Agencys.
Step Two: City officials spend a month rallying the public in these issues.
Step Three: "Federal" [Read: Machine Programs] Agents are assigned from up high to the Mega City. They bring with them equipment etc etc.
Step Four: The next large scale act of hostiliys results in this newly created publicly known task force being used. A quick responce team responds to the area via UH-60, fast ropes in and receives covering fire from the door gunners.
Step Five: Clean up.
Two UH-60's, a squad of Tactical Security in both, and we call it a SWAT raid.
You seem like a man who can appreciate a more tactical, strategic reponse. You also seem to be one whom isn't interested in "going with the flow." Perhaps it's time we had another conversation about affiliation.
For Neo,
Zeissman
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05/13/2007 20:35:46
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NightTrace wrote:
Theres a difference between thinking like a "Machine" as you put it, and applying valid tactical thinking to a situation.
The first would insinuate a refusal to apply emotion or outside the box thinking to your problems. The second would suggest that anything will at least be planned out to see what will grant the best end result.
Valid tactical thinking has its place of course. However in the circumstances of awakenings i can see no place for it. Tactical thinking implies the idea of winning and overcoming an enemy or situation. Where the main objective of awakenings is to offer the potential a choice, unfortuntely in the past this may have not always been the case, however it is the current reality.
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Not the case. If I may, allow me to put my own line of thought onto an awakening?
More often then not, I've witnessed these potential redpills be given the advertised lines. "See the truth" , "theres more to it then you know".
To be perfectly honest, these potentials never seem to quite ever buy into everything. Their told alot, and half the time it works out for you, they take the redpill and its done. However valid tactical thinking can even be applied to the awakening of potentials, if you take the time to do it.
You can even make a standerdized set of guidelines for -every- awakening. Increasing efficiency etc.
A bluepill has picked up on things, and has been determind to be a potential.
Do -not- just run up to them and start acting all Morpheus about *CENSORED*. You look like a clown, and it does not inspire trust.
Instead, spend a good day or so gathering information about this person. Their job, what their home life is like, their child hood etc. Most of this information can be picked up from the proper channels. In EPNs case, between access to the Zion Mainframe through others, and hackers tapping lower security level Machine mainframes.
When you first make contact with the person, do not run up with bandanna on your face, screaming that the machines are evil and you are here to save them.
Set up a standerd dress uniform for these sort of missions. Business suits [any color], simple shirt/slack combos, skirts for women. You want to appear to be as normal a person as you can to the blues.
Slowly build towards the pill question. Talk to them, get to know thier conversational quirks before moving on.
Attempt to build a semi-valid link of trust with the blue. And segue into the entire world that they have been living in without seeing.
From here you can ask the question regarding choice, and move from there.
Tada: Thinking of an awakening as an operation can be efficient, and applies tactical thinking to the situation.
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Cihesh wrote:
(( how the hell did we get onto laying waste in Helicopters SMILEY ...))
[[Blame me SMILEY]]
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NightTrace wrote:
Not the case. If I may, allow me to put my own line of thought onto an awakening?
More often then not, I've witnessed these potential redpills be given the advertised lines. "See the truth" , "theres more to it then you know".
To be perfectl honest, these potentials never seem to quite ever buy into everything. Their told alot, and half the time it works out for you, they take the redpill and its down. However valid tactical thinking can even be applied to the awakening of potentials, if you take the time to do it.
You can even make a standerdized set of guidelines for -every- awakening. Increasing efficiency etc.
A bluepill has picked up on things, and has been determind to be a potential.
Do -not- just run up to them and start acting all Morpheus about *CENSORED*. You look like a clown, and it does not inspire trust.
Instead, spend a good day or so gathering information about this person. Their job, what their home life is like, their child hood etc. Most of this information can be picked up from the proper channels. In EPNs case, between access to the Zion Mainframe through others, and hackers tapping lower security level Machine mainframes.
When you first make contact with the person, do not run up with bandanna on your face, screaming that the machines are evil and you are here to save them.
Set up a standerd dress uniform for these sort of missions. Business suits [any color], simple shirt/slack combos, skirts for women. You want to appear to be as normal a person as you can to the blues.
Slowly build towards the pill question. Talk to them, get to know thier conversational quirks before moving on.
Attempt to build a semi-valid link of trust with the blue. And segue into the entire world that they have been living in without seeing.
From here you can ask the question regarding choice, and move from there.
Tada: Thinking of an awakening as an operation can be efficient, and applies tactical thinking to the situation.
And as you see, EPN Operatives, this is how you obtain a strict standard of tips and guidelines in initiating and executing the delicate procedure of awakening a potential redpill. Please take your time and thank the Mega City Department of Energy operative NightTrace for taking time out of his schedule to offer such words of wisdom.
And to NightTrace, I do thank you. Yet I fear you may have tipped your hand and shown just how delicate you can be when you wish to. I respect you no less, but now I fear I picture you quitting your job with the Energy Department and doing something much more fitting with this newfound personality trait... maybe farming chicklets or becoming an accomplished flourist.
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Hey, I have no issues with someone who is ready to be awakend being given the choice. So long as
A.) They are given -both- options to chose from.
and
B.) They are not lied to.
If A and B are met, I could care less. Its allowed, and perfectly resonable. And if I can cause the 1% to get an overall easier transistion because I had to teach EPN a thing or two, Im ok with that.
However, the second part of what you said is just silly. Just because I just fielded a hypothetical situation that did not involve killing and/or maiming does not mean I've lost my touch.
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NightTrace wrote:
Hey, I have no issues with someone who is ready to be awakend being given the choice. So long as
A.) They are given -both- options to chose from.
and
B.) They are not lied to.
If A and B are met, I could care less. Its allowed, and perfectly resonable. And if I can cause the 1% to get an overall easier transistion because I had to teach EPN a thing or two, Im ok with that.
However, the second part of what you said is just silly. Just because I just fielded a hypothetical situation that did not involve killing and/or maiming does not mean I've lost my touch.
I'd never imply that you've "lost your touch." Merely that you may have potential in other fields. Besides, is it a crime to multitask?
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NightTrace wrote:
Not the case. If I may, allow me to put my own line of thought onto an awakening?
More often then not, I've witnessed these potential redpills be given the advertised lines. "See the truth" , "theres more to it then you know".
To be perfectly honest, these potentials never seem to quite ever buy into everything. Their told alot, and half the time it works out for you, they take the redpill and its done. However valid tactical thinking can even be applied to the awakening of potentials, if you take the time to do it.
You can even make a standerdized set of guidelines for -every- awakening. Increasing efficiency etc.
A bluepill has picked up on things, and has been determind to be a potential.
Do -not- just run up to them and start acting all Morpheus about *CENSORED*. You look like a clown, and it does not inspire trust.
Instead, spend a good day or so gathering information about this person. Their job, what their home life is like, their child hood etc. Most of this information can be picked up from the proper channels. In EPNs case, between access to the Zion Mainframe through others, and hackers tapping lower security level Machine mainframes.
When you first make contact with the person, do not run up with bandanna on your face, screaming that the machines are evil and you are here to save them.
Set up a standerd dress uniform for these sort of missions. Business suits [any color], simple shirt/slack combos, skirts for women. You want to appear to be as normal a person as you can to the blues.
Slowly build towards the pill question. Talk to them, get to know thier conversational quirks before moving on.
Attempt to build a semi-valid link of trust with the blue. And segue into the entire world that they have been living in without seeing.
From here you can ask the question regarding choice, and move from there.
Tada: Thinking of an awakening as an operation can be efficient, and applies tactical thinking to the situation.
Which my friend is already being done by our operatives, I cannot speak for the rest of EPN but all our operatives fully understand the magnitude of the Choice that is going to be given.
Perhaps you should forward this through your channels to Veil and her lackeys as they are the ones that seem unable to offer a real chance or choice to potentials.
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Zeissman wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
Hey, I have no issues with someone who is ready to be awakend being given the choice. So long as
A.) They are given -both- options to chose from.
and
B.) They are not lied to.
If A and B are met, I could care less. Its allowed, and perfectly resonable. And if I can cause the 1% to get an overall easier transistion because I had to teach EPN a thing or two, Im ok with that.
However, the second part of what you said is just silly. Just because I just fielded a hypothetical situation that did not involve killing and/or maiming does not mean I've lost my touch.
I'd never imply that you've "lost your touch." Merely that you may have potential in other fields. Besides, is it a crime to multitask?
For Neo,
Zeissman
Maybe I can start making flower arrangments for the funerals I cause...
Cihesh wrote:
Perhaps you should forward this through your channels to Veil and her lackeys as they are the ones that seem unable to offer a real chance or choice to potentials.
I have as little to do with the Cyphs as possible
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Take note, Monsieur Zeiss. They will all die, and all because of you.
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((orignal post a little off topic SMILEY ))
So far were 2-0, just had word that KarmaChang has been awakened by the Daniel Institute.
As for the "Premonition's" Chemeul best keep them to your self lest someone burn you at the stake.
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Seems Karma Chang has been freed by Neopill and Meretrix.
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*grins*
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Cihesh wrote:
((orignal post a little off topic SMILEY ))
So far were 2-0, just had word that KarmaChang has been awakened by the Daniel Institute.
As for the "Premonition's" Chemeul best keep them to your self lest someone burn you at the stake.
Yeah, Meretrix pulled this off with the help of Neopill. From what I read, she'd make NightTrace revise his efficiency log. HERE'S THE CHAT LOG.
EDIT: Chat log included.
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Karma Chang has indeed been freed, thanks in no small part to MeretrixMeretricis and Neopill of the Daniel Institute of Dream Interpretation. Congratulations to said operatives and we welcome Karma to the real world.
Randy Stevens, Stunt Cyclist
Randall Stevens has flagged as a potential, and will be the next in the list of bluepills to be awakened. He is a motorcycle stunt rider, and works on his stunts in the vicinity of Uriah Industrial, among the workers of the shipping yard. He often sleeps on a cot where he works. His residence is currently unknown, but it is believed that he stays nights with friends or "new company" when not on the cot at work.
Primary Objective: Establish contact with RandyStevens and extract him.
Secondary Objective: Determine Randy's residence and establish steady communication with him.
Please, remain vigilant and always remember to excercize caution when approaching a bluepill subject.
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So now the neo wannabes are on an awakening spree...what a waste of red pills.
We have enough fools flying around and believing they are "special", we don't need more redpills "stressing" the system.
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
So now the neo wannabes are on an awakening spree...what a waste of red pills.
We have enough fools flying around and believing they are "special", we don't need more redpills "stressing" the system.
You're a great example of you're 'fools' reference, for sure.
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You are correct, I never said I wasn't one of these "fools". But some fools deserve the pill...and others not.
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I'm pretty sure Meretrix has the chat logs, and some more stills. But heres a few from our meeting with KarmaChang at Meretrix's office.
KarmaChang is a very strong person. And very perceptive. It was an honor to see her make the wisest of choices. Meretrix was instrumental in capturing the essence of what it means to free an enslaved mind. My very best wishes to you KarmaChang.
Welcome to the real world.
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Yeah thats what we need... MORE awakened people.
Now they can do what the rest of the awakened mass does, run around and try to enforce their views upon the rest of us. Yeah... welcome to the real world.
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
You are correct, I never said I wasn't one of these "fools". But some fools deserve the pill...and others not.
And you believe that you are the one to deny them that choice?
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Cihesh wrote:
And you believe that you are the one to deny them that choice?
Of course. If some people believe they are the ones to offer them the choice, I believe I am the one who can deny them that same choice.
I think it's called..."balance".
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So you dont believe those that are ready for the Choice should be offered it? These people are people who are rejecting the system, not random bluepills.
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Not everybody who "rejects the system" deserves the Red, as you can see by only taking a look at our beloved city.
The point is: what makes Zeissman "the right person" to choose who bluepills deserved to be saved and whose not?
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
Not everybody who "rejects the system" deserves the Red, as you can see by only taking a look at our beloved city.
The point is: what makes Zeissman "the right person" to choose who bluepills deserved to be saved and whose not?
Not everyone who rejects the system ought to be a redpill, but they at least deserve the choice. And the balance is lies within the choice. Blue balances Red. I would say that there are more people who believe a bluepill deserves the choice. Those who don't would be devil's advocates or exceptions, in my opinion anyway.
Also, I am under the impression that Zeissman is relaying this information from a higher source. Perhaps he is getting it from the Zion or Machine mainframe via a CPD. No one is stopping other orgs from offering the choice.
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Ryumanjisen wrote:
Not everybody who "rejects the system" deserves the Red, as you can see by only taking a look at our beloved city.
The point is: what makes Zeissman "the right person" to choose who bluepills deserved to be saved and whose not?
Perhaps you havnt read what has been said, where was the reference in giving only the redpill?. They get a choice, one more time for those hard of hearing...they get a choice. Not all will take the Red, some will take the blue, the goals is not speciifcally to awaken them, but give them a chance to choose.
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Then how come you never see grand posts about a bluepill who choose the blue pill. In fact, you seldom hear about them at all. People get all proud when someone chooses to live in a cave, but people tend to ignore the ones who would rather tell you where to put your red pill.
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MrPuck wrote:
Then how come you never see grand posts about a bluepill who choose the blue pill. In fact, you seldom hear about them at all. People get all proud when someone chooses to live in a cave, but people tend to ignore the ones who would rather tell you where to put your red pill.
I'd be willing to hear such a story, Mr. Puck. Do you have one to tell?
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MrPuck wrote:
Then how come you never see grand posts about a bluepill who choose the blue pill. In fact, you seldom hear about them at all. People get all proud when someone chooses to live in a cave, but people tend to ignore the ones who would rather tell you where to put your red pill.
I have heard a story like this. It describes nothing but regret. You don't hear about these because they are the equivilent to hearing stories about people who sit on the couch and never accomplish anything. No chances taken, no risk, no opportunity for greatness. We may never achieve greatness, but at least we're trying.
hellstomp3r wrote:
I'm pretty sure Meretrix has the chat logs, and some more stills. But heres a few from our meeting with KarmaChang at Meretrix's office.
Yeah, here it is.
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